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Old 09-20-2004, 10:06 AM #1
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Love and Fear
Everything done by humans is motivated by love or fear. All, more specific, emotional motivators can be classified into one of the two.

Agree? Disagree? Are we really such simplistic creatures that every action we perform is based upon only one of two factors, or are we more complex than that?

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Having already discussed this with Azule earlier, I'd like to point out now that "cupcakes" are not a motivational force.
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Old 09-20-2004, 10:07 AM #2
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You're back. awesome.

and yeah, i somewhat agree with you.
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Old 09-20-2004, 10:09 AM #3
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You're back. awesome.

and yeah, i somewhat agree with you.
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Old 09-20-2004, 10:09 AM #4
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who's the nerd guy?
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Old 09-20-2004, 10:10 AM #5
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I have to agree whole-heartedly because everything I have been doing lately is mostly for love. I don't think I do anything out of fear lately and it has happened. The love and fear things are the main points but they branch of into different categories that we all act upon.
We are really simple creatures but everybody thinks that thanks to a few scientific achievements we are WAY better than a gorilla.
Gorilllas aren't far of from the intelligence of some of the humans on this earth, if not smarter.
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as for the answer to your question: its more a case of rationality for me. I do things now based on fear (more to face up to the fear - never knowing what could be etc etc)
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Hello there.


I believe everything us humans do is motivated by pleasure. We want to love because it is pleasurable, fear anything that might hurt us, seek wisdom to avoid tragedy, fame and fortune since we think it will spare us the pain of social rejection.

Seems like we're even simpler than you would like to think. Though all things are simple on a basic level.
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Old 09-20-2004, 10:37 AM #8
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Oh, and as for the topic, yeah I basically had the same thing as Deneb had to say.
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Old 09-20-2004, 10:56 AM #9
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Love and Fear have so many different definitions and degrees but all in all i would have to agree, sometimes the two act as one in the same. You may fear angering someone you love.

I do not think this makes us simple creatures though, because of the varying degrees of love and fear.
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Old 09-20-2004, 11:55 AM #10
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Hey that's true.. There's nothing I don't do that's not motivated by fear of pain/death or love of pleasure. I'm glad DZ is back

Unfortunately my fear of pain has kept me out of relationships because most guys are heartless bastards. But there are nice guys like Psionyx out there too.
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Old 09-20-2004, 12:00 PM #11
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When it comes right down to it, love and fear are the only motivating factors. The rest are all subsets of the two. All other emotions stem from those two.
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I agree with DZ. I can't think of anything I've done in the last month or so that once broken down to its roots isn't motivated by either love or fear.
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I agree with the love aspect ot this but disagree with the fear aspect.

Love is an emotion, emotions play a large roll in how we live our lives, I fight to protect the ones I love, some might find that corny and hard to believe but once you've lived it your life will not be the same I assure you.

Fear however is an instinct, one the alerts creatures to danger. It plays an instrumental roll in survival, I personally do not allow instincts to controll my behavier, doing so will cause me to do nothing. That would negate my purpose in life.
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Old 09-20-2004, 01:32 PM #14
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Yeah Dark Zelda... I agree with you, and I am sure everyone on this baord that enters this topic will agree.

So I don't think there is any more room for dicussion.

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Yeah Dark Zelda... I agree with you, and I am sure everyone on this baord that enters this topic will agree.

So I don't think there is any more room for dicussion.

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Old 09-20-2004, 01:36 PM #16
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Money motivates me.

Motivates me well. Enough to set aside love and fear.
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I love dark zelda, she is the greatest.

We only preform on those two factors becuse if you were to reduce all human emotion down to it all ends up to becomeing Love or fear. for instants if you were to act out in hate, hate is in direct corralation to love so why wouldn't it be considdered other wise. Same goes with bravery, goes along with being fearful of your actions. If everything can be condenced into two things then let it be.... it is..... what it is.
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Money motivates me.

Motivates me well. Enough to set aside love and fear.

Money is both of those.

Money can be pleasureable if you have it... but fearful if you are worried about not making enough to keep a good amount of money.
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money and cupcakes do technicly fall under love
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Money is both of those.

Money can be pleasureable if you have it... but fearful if you are worried about not making enough to keep a good amount of money.

Has nothing to do with the convo we are discussing.
DZ says everything we do is motivated by love or fear. How is money motivated at all? It isn't. It doesn't affect my love or fear. In fact, it causes love and fear and isn't affected by it at all.

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