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06-29-2007, 02:48 PM
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Golden f*cking Sun!
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Court overturns Brown vs. Board of Education
Let's see how much damage Bush can do in his last few years of office! Let' see... he's started wars, ruined the economy, engaged in illegal wiretaps, ruined America's international relations, allowed Russia to head up the path back to being the USSR, let N. Korea develop nukes, run up record deficits and nowww....undoes decades of progress on de-segreation!
Look at him go folks! Already arguably the worst president in US history! He's makin' sure nobody can match his record!
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06-29-2007, 03:16 PM
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I don't get how this brings us back to the segregated era at all.
This is is basically saying affirmative action is wrong and race shouldn't be considered at all...am I missing something?
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06-29-2007, 03:18 PM
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See Emily Play!
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Yea idk what the hell you're talking about Game Guru, highlight the parts we missed maybe?
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06-29-2007, 04:06 PM
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Golden f*cking Sun!
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This decision basically means the American schools can be segregated defacto. Although they can't actually REFUSE black students, local communities can no-longer require a school have a population that is 15% black for example. This means that you could start seeing schools with a population of 90% white/hispanic/black for example, and generally among libers and probably most Americans, that's not a good thing. I dunno, the congress could probably actually legislate such requirements, but we already had it in the courts so the decision must either be overturned or legislated directly by congress.
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Investors Business Daily on Obama "death panel":
"People such as scientist Stephen Hawking wouldn't have a chance in the U.K., where the National Health Service would say the life of this brilliant man, because of his physical handicaps, is essentially worthless."
Needless to say, Hawking, who is recognized as one of the great theoretical physicists of the 20th and 21st century, was born in the UK and has lived his entire life there.
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06-29-2007, 04:10 PM
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Lakitu
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Originally Posted by Game Guru
This decision basically means the American schools can be segregated defacto. Although they can't actually REFUSE black students, local communities can no-longer require a school have a population that is 15% black for example. This means that you could start seeing schools with a population of 90% white/hispanic/black for example, and generally among libers and probably most Americans, that's not a good thing. I dunno, the congress could probably actually legislate such requirements, but we already had it in the courts so the decision must either be overturned or legislated directly by congress.
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Why should a school require a certain amount of minority students? Quota systems are retarded, and no this isn't bringing back segregation. It's saying that you can't discriminate by race, whatever the race is.
Did you even read the article?
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06-29-2007, 04:14 PM
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See Emily Play!
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As long as they're seperated based on intelligence, and not race itself. Because usually it's based on the person if they're intelligent, you shouldn't give someone a chance if they don't deserve it. Race should have nothing to do with who gets in a school, it may just so happens that none of the black, or none of the white, hispanic, or asian people weren't good enough to make it into the schools selection.
"oh hey, you WOULD be smart enough to get in, but we have our white quota filled, bye!"
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06-29-2007, 04:25 PM
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Golden f*cking Sun!
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Umm, no, this pertains to the K-12 grades, not colleges...you don't need to pass an exam to get in them as you're REQUIRED to go to them.
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Investors Business Daily on Obama "death panel":
"People such as scientist Stephen Hawking wouldn't have a chance in the U.K., where the National Health Service would say the life of this brilliant man, because of his physical handicaps, is essentially worthless."
Needless to say, Hawking, who is recognized as one of the great theoretical physicists of the 20th and 21st century, was born in the UK and has lived his entire life there.
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06-29-2007, 04:41 PM
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See Emily Play!
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If it's public school, then quotas shouldnt be in place because everyone has to go anyway, if it's private, then they have the right to do whatever they want.
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06-29-2007, 04:48 PM
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Jeffersonian
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Originally Posted by Game Guru
Although they can't actually REFUSE black students, local communities can no-longer require a school have a population that is 15% black for example.
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So school communities will more properly represent their community? I think requiring a % of races in a school is kinda wrong.
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06-29-2007, 05:05 PM
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Golden f*cking Sun!
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Originally Posted by Drunken Savior
So school communities will more properly represent their community? I think requiring a % of races in a school is kinda wrong.
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Ah! Now we're getting somewhere. The purpose of racial qutas in PUBLIC schools (not private), beyond the benefit that comes from having kids exposed to other races (thus curbing racism) was to ensure a more balaced school system. There's already a wide enough gap of preformance between poor and rich schools, that gap will only become more pronounced with this decision.
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Investors Business Daily on Obama "death panel":
"People such as scientist Stephen Hawking wouldn't have a chance in the U.K., where the National Health Service would say the life of this brilliant man, because of his physical handicaps, is essentially worthless."
Needless to say, Hawking, who is recognized as one of the great theoretical physicists of the 20th and 21st century, was born in the UK and has lived his entire life there.
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06-29-2007, 05:21 PM
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Well if you believe that, what about the other races? Do we break down a school to properly represent the current documented population? Where would we find all these children?
It's a ridiculous quota. I think it's slightly racist too. How would you feel to be a black person in a white school, knowing you were put there, and not with the kids you play with around your home, because of the government?
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"I do not advocate drug use. I advocate education and proper science"
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06-29-2007, 05:32 PM
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Highly, I say
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Originally Posted by Game Guru
This decision basically means the American schools can be segregated defacto. Although they can't actually REFUSE black students, local communities can no-longer require a school have a population that is 15% black for example.
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So? Diversity should be encouraged, but making it mandatory is stupid.
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06-29-2007, 05:51 PM
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Golden f*cking Sun!
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How would you feel to be a black person in a white school, knowing you were put there, and not with the kids you play with around your home, because of the government?
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Our schools in Albany, GA, and I didn't care. I was part of the Magnet program anyway, so I never really saw the kids in my neighborhood at school.
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Do we break down a school to properly represent the current documented population? Where would we find all these children?
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This isn't really a question of whether it's possible or not. We've been doing it since the 70's.
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I think it's slightly racist too.
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So it's racist to curb racism by encouraging interaction with people of other cultures and races?
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So? Diversity should be encouraged, but making it mandatory is stupid.
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Why? People won't do it on their own so they should be forced to do so.
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Investors Business Daily on Obama "death panel":
"People such as scientist Stephen Hawking wouldn't have a chance in the U.K., where the National Health Service would say the life of this brilliant man, because of his physical handicaps, is essentially worthless."
Needless to say, Hawking, who is recognized as one of the great theoretical physicists of the 20th and 21st century, was born in the UK and has lived his entire life there.
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06-29-2007, 06:03 PM
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quotas = discrimination
discrimination is wrong. race shouldn't be a factor. if we stop treating it like it's a factor, it'll slowly cease to be one.
Quotas only reinforce the idea that people from different races are different.
i don't see how anybody overturned brown vs board of education. you're so retarded i can't even believe it.
brown said that race cant be a factor for accepting or rejecting a student into a public school. this reinforces that further
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06-29-2007, 06:14 PM
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Bullet Bill
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quotas = discrimination
discrimination is wrong. race shouldn't be a factor. if we stop treating it like it's a factor, it'll slowly cease to be one.
Quotas only reinforce the idea that people from different races are different.
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06-29-2007, 06:23 PM
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Jeffersonian
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So it's racist to curb racism by encouraging interaction with people of other cultures and races?
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That was the goal. The execution to achieve that was horribly done.
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"I do not advocate drug use. I advocate education and proper science"
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06-29-2007, 06:28 PM
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See Emily Play!
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Game Guru you're no longer allowed to say George Bush is stupid until you become less stupid yourself.
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06-29-2007, 06:29 PM
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Golden f*cking Sun!
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Originally Posted by Paul Weller
discrimination is wrong. race shouldn't be a factor. if we stop treating it like it's a factor, it'll slowly cease to be one.
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That's a nice theory, for the conservative dreamland... but it's impractical and lacks any type of conventional logic. If I lived in an area where I played with nothing but black kids, saw nothing but black teachers, coaches, and mentors. Do you honestly think I won't be biased toward black people when I grow up and leave that neighborhood? I'm begging to hear how you explain this away...
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Quotas only reinforce the idea that people from different races are different.
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They are. And people need to be exposed to different races in order to not be racist. We already tried your way...didn't seem to work too well with all the riots and stuff. Much of the tension formed in the period between slavery and the end of segragation was a result of the fact people were segregated, not merely the existance of any law.
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i don't see how anybody overturned brown vs board of education.
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They overturned it in spirit. When liberals enacted the Brown ruling, they meant that schools should be intigrated. If a school is not intigrated because 95% of the people living in an area are say, white, the school needs to be intigrated with people of another race.
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this reinforces that further
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The backwards conservetive notion of it, yes.
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Investors Business Daily on Obama "death panel":
"People such as scientist Stephen Hawking wouldn't have a chance in the U.K., where the National Health Service would say the life of this brilliant man, because of his physical handicaps, is essentially worthless."
Needless to say, Hawking, who is recognized as one of the great theoretical physicists of the 20th and 21st century, was born in the UK and has lived his entire life there.
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06-29-2007, 06:33 PM
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Banned
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game guru, youre an idiot. all the court did was ruled that the "constitution is what it says". race based admissions are clearly a violation of the equal protection clause.
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06-29-2007, 06:36 PM
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Golden f*cking Sun!
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Originally Posted by Drunken Savior
That was the goal. The execution to achieve that was horribly done.
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It was? How so?
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Originally Posted by Snuggles
"constitution is what it says"
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Well, yeah, liberals tend to have a more evolutionary view of the constitution.
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Investors Business Daily on Obama "death panel":
"People such as scientist Stephen Hawking wouldn't have a chance in the U.K., where the National Health Service would say the life of this brilliant man, because of his physical handicaps, is essentially worthless."
Needless to say, Hawking, who is recognized as one of the great theoretical physicists of the 20th and 21st century, was born in the UK and has lived his entire life there.
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