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11-23-2006, 11:58 PM

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Public school teacher "you blong in hell"

http://www.nj.com/news/jjournal/ind...7990.xml&coll=3

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'YOU BELONG IN HELL'
Kearny High preacher teacher uses classroom to condemn non-Christians
Wednesday, November 15, 2006
By KEN THORBOURNE
JOURNAL STAFF WRITER

KEARNY - A Kearny High School student has accused a history teacher of crossing the line between teaching and preaching - and he's got the tapes to prove it.

Sixteen-year-old junior Matthew LaClair says he was shocked when history teacher David Paszkiewicz, who is also a Baptist preacher in town, spent the first week lecturing students more about Heaven and Hell than the colonies and Constitution.

"I would never have suspected something like this went on in a public school," LaClair said yesterday.

He said Paszkiewicz told students that if they didn't accept Jesus, "you belong in Hell." He also dismissed as unscientific the theories of evolution and the "Big Bang."

Paszkiewicz, a teacher at the high school since 1992, didn't return phone messages left for him at the high school; school principal Al Somma declined to comment.

But Superintendent of Schools Robert Mooney, who called Paszkiewicz "a wonderful teacher," said he was aware of the issues raised by LaClair - and the recordings - and said "corrective action" would be taken. But he refused to say what the "corrective action" would consist of or when it would take place.

As of yesterday, Paszkiewicz hasn't been disciplined in any way and continues to teach his class, Mooney said. In fact, LaClair says he's still in the class and that he's received good grades so far this year.

LaClair, who described his own religious views as "non-Christian," said he wanted to complain about Paszkiewicz to school administrators, but feared his teacher would deny the charges and that no one would believe a student's word against a teacher's. So he started taping Paszkiewicz in class.

"If I didn't have those CDs everything would have been dismissed," LaClair said.

On Oct. 10 - a month after he first requested a meeting with the principal - LaClair met with Paszkiewicz, Somma and the head of social studies department.

At first Paszkiewicz denied he mixed in religion with his history lesson and the adults in the room appeared to be buying it, LaClair said. But then LaClair reached into his backpack and produced the CDs.

At that point Paszkiewicz remarked, according to LaClair, "Maybe you're an atheist. You caught the big Christian fish."

"I don't hate this man," LaClair said yesterday. "But if you're going to preach your religion in a public school ... and lying in a meeting about it, then I think he must have some problem he can't deal with in a public school."

another link with audio
http://richarddawkins.net/article,3...ell,Jim-Lippard

http://www.nj.com/news/ledger/jerse...7360.xml&coll=1

I'd say fire his ass. Public school is not a place to preach then lie about preaching. Doesn't it seem like a conflict of interest for a Minister to be a teacher at a public school?

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11-24-2006, 12:06 AM	#2
Jay The Pinnacle of Manliness Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Tampa Posts: 4,209	Separation of Church and State FTL __________________

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Jay The Pinnacle of Manliness Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Tampa Posts: 4,209	Prove it __________________

11-24-2006, 12:11 AM

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11-24-2006, 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Jay

Prove it

I LIVE in Louisiana, which is actual proof of hell.

The food is great, though.

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11-24-2006, 12:21 AM	#7
Pandas_UNITE Positive Panda Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: I live in your heart ;) Posts: 18,246	you want reggie bushs dick __________________

11-24-2006, 12:29 AM	#8
Jay The Pinnacle of Manliness Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Tampa Posts: 4,209	The food is Louisiana is mighty tasty __________________

11-24-2006, 01:19 AM	#9
Robjomak still going strong Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Philadelphia Posts: 8,019	lol I'm in Kearny right now. Surprisingly nice for being so close to Newark. The way I look at it, this lying jerk deserves our tax dollars just as much as the other lying jerks who work in public schools. As in, not at all. So cut funding. To all of them.

11-24-2006, 01:30 AM	#10
Xavius Sabor de Soledad Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: NM Posts: 32,274	Home School Nation FTL __________________ I was young and confused and your mom didn't want me around no more. Now pass me dem damn collard greens!

11-24-2006, 01:31 AM	#11
Robjomak still going strong Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Philadelphia Posts: 8,019	I don't know if that's the answer, but in the meantime, I'm all for ruthlessly gutting the current public education system.

11-24-2006, 01:36 AM	#12
Xavius Sabor de Soledad Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: NM Posts: 32,274	So just sorta pull the plug on education funding and hope for the best? Sounds like the prequel to Mad Max. __________________ I was young and confused and your mom didn't want me around no more. Now pass me dem damn collard greens!

11-24-2006, 01:39 AM	#13
~~MrSnuggles~~ Banned Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Land of the free, home of the brave Posts: 8,147	corporations cant have a monopoly on anything, why should the government?

11-24-2006, 01:42 AM	#14
Xavius Sabor de Soledad Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: NM Posts: 32,274	So what is the answer, Snuggles? __________________ I was young and confused and your mom didn't want me around no more. Now pass me dem damn collard greens!

11-24-2006, 02:51 AM	#15
~~MrSnuggles~~ Banned Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Land of the free, home of the brave Posts: 8,147	vouchers. let people choose between private education and public education. if people leave public schools in droves, which they would, theyd be forced to improve.

11-24-2006, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Xavius

Home School Nation FTL

You'd say that. The public education system sucks something fierce.

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11-24-2006, 01:06 PM	#17
Xavius Sabor de Soledad Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: NM Posts: 32,274	I don't love public education but I trust homeschooling even less. No offense you came out pretty good if not a bit overly catholic. __________________ I was young and confused and your mom didn't want me around no more. Now pass me dem damn collard greens!

11-24-2006, 01:12 PM	#18
~~Mourning Star~~ "HERE'S JOHNNY!" Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Raleigh, N.C. Posts: 1,185	Suspend him without pay for a week. If he does something similiar again, then fire him.

11-24-2006, 01:16 PM	#19
Pojo is it? Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 22,046	And why exactly do you not "trust" homeschooling? Because it doesn't turn kids into raging liberals? Because parents are just trying to protect their children from God-knows-what? And believe me, the watered-down curriculum isn't really doing any good. __________________

11-24-2006, 01:18 PM	#20
Xavius Sabor de Soledad Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: NM Posts: 32,274	Because most people are idiots and can't teach? Sheesh calm down pojo and turn off the Michael Savage will you? __________________ I was young and confused and your mom didn't want me around no more. Now pass me dem damn collard greens!