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02-03-2006, 08:47 AM
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Treasure Hunter
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Sad news of the week. Ship sinks, couple dozens at least died. could be way way more.
Dozens of Bodies From Egyptian Ship Found
By SALAH NASRAWI, Associated Press Writer 1 minute ago
CAIRO, Egypt - An Egyptian passenger ship carrying about 1,300 people sank in the Red Sea overnight during bad weather, and rescue ships arriving at the scene Friday pulled dozens of bodies from the water, an official said. About 30 survivors were rescued, some in lifeboats.
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An Egyptian Embassy spokesman told the British Broadcasting Corp. that "dozens of bodies of victims" had been pulled from the choppy waters between Saudi Arabia and Egypt.
The 35-year-old ship, Al-Salaam Boccaccio 98, went down 40 miles off the Egyptian port of Hurghada, the head of the Egyptian Maritime Authority, Mahfouz Taha Marzouk, told The Associated Press. The cause was unknown.
Britain's top naval officer said he had diverted a warship to the north Red Sea site and it will arrive within two days.
But Ayman al-Kaffas, a spokesman for the Egyptian Embassy in London, told the BBC that "a massive search-and-rescue effort" was underway, and "dozens of bodies of victims" had been pulled from the water.
"We have spotted several lifeboats with live passengers that we are trying to get to," al-Kaffas said. "It's a challenging operation due to the bad weather conditions."
There were high winds and a sandstorm overnight on Saudi Arabia's west coast, where the ship departed from. The ship sailed from the Saudi port of Dubah at 7 p.m. Thursday night and was scheduled to arrive at Egypt's port of Sa***a — 120 miles away — eight hours later.
The ship disappeared from radar screens shortly after sailing, maritime officials in Suez said on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to speak to the press.
Helicopters sent up soon after the vessel disappeared saw bodies floating in the water and at least one lifeboat carrying three people, Egyptian maritime officials said.
Nizam Siddiqui of Lloyd's of London said he had ruled out a collision or terrorist attack as the cause of the accident because the area was well-patrolled.
"The rough weather must have been the main factor for bringing this vessel down," he told the BBC from Jiddah, Saudi Arabia, adding that the ship was "very well-maintained."
The agent for the ship in Saudi Arabia, Farid al-Douadi, said the vessel was in good condition. The passengers were mostly Egyptians but included Saudis, Sudanese and other nationalities.
Marzouk said the ship — built in 1971 and renovated in 1990 in an Egyptian shipyard — was carrying 1,318 people, including a crew of 96. It also was carrying about 220 vehicles.
"The ship complied with all necessary safety measures," Egyptian Transport Minister Mohammed Lutfy Mansour told Egypt's semi-official Middle East News Agency. "The reasons remain unknown. ... The Coast Guard is doing everything in its power to try to rescue these people."
The ship was carrying mostly Egyptian workers, who often take ships from Saudi Arabia back home across the Red Sea. The passengers also included families of the workers returning home from visiting their loved ones in Saudi Arabia, relatives waiting at Sa***a port said.
Initial reports said some of the passengers may have been Muslim pilgrims returning from the hajj to Mecca, Saudi Arabia, which ended nearly a month ago. But the Saudi port of Dubah is known more as a transit point for workers than pilgrims, who mostly leave through Jiddah, further south.
Dubah and Sa***a lie virtually opposite each other at the northern end of the Red Sea, which is an extremely busy sea route. In addition to east-west traffic between Saudi Arabia and Egypt, there is north-south traffic through the Suez Canal and to and from the Israeli and Jordanian ports of Eilat and Aqaba.
The ship is owned by the Egyptian firm El-Salaam Maritime Transport Co. The company's owner, Mamdouh Ismail, said the ship is registered in Panama. He spoke before the sinking was confirmed and refused to comment further.
A ship owned by the same company, also carrying pilgrims, collided with a cargo ship at the southern entrance to the Suez Canal in October, causing a stampede among passengers trying to escape the sinking ship. Two people were killed and 40 injured.
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02-03-2006, 08:55 AM
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It's only appropriate.
Join Date: Jan 2003
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And your thoughts on this are...?
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02-03-2006, 09:01 AM
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Mr. Tambourine Man
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Australia
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Buildings literally just fall over all the time in Egypt. The sad truth is they have crappy regulations.
The place a hole.
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02-03-2006, 09:18 AM
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Treasure Hunter
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Sainte Maxime
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Originally Posted by Daisy
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that i'm sad? 
and dawson. this is a 35 year old ship that was renovated 16 years ago. it lasted for a long time. i suppose anyways. this is too bad though. and unlike us first world countries people, they don't have the cash to renovate everything and anything they want to.
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02-03-2006, 08:09 PM
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Beware the Meteorologist
Join Date: Jul 2002
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Whoa. There could literally be 1000 people dead. Went down in the middle of a real nasty storm they think. Mostly day laborors that commute from Egypt to Saudi-Arabia and back. Real crappy way to die. Hope this doesn't get blamed on the US or Israel. We don't need any of that right now.
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02-03-2006, 09:01 PM
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Is she worth it?
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Boston
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Originally Posted by Daisy
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He's French, he waits for someone to conquer him and tell him his opinion.
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02-03-2006, 10:40 PM
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ShyGuy
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Brisbane, Australia.
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Apparently the ship passed a safety check in Italy not too long ago.
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02-04-2006, 12:02 AM
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Lakitu
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Eh people die a lot.
It's too bad
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02-04-2006, 01:08 AM
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Jeffersonian
Join Date: Sep 2005
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Originally Posted by http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060204/ap_on_re_mi_ea/egypt_ship_sinks
A spokesman for President Hosni Mubarak said the ferry did not have enough lifeboats, and questions were raised about the safety of the 35-year-old, refitted ship that was weighed down with 220 cars as well as the passengers.
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A lesson that should have been learned a few DECADES ago. Jesus. Look at the cost of re-learning this lesson...
[Edit] I hate it how the media reports that an incident IS NOT an act of terrorism. If its not terrorism, there's no need to report it.
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02-04-2006, 05:37 AM
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Treasure Hunter
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Sainte Maxime
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can we get King Bowser banned yet?
here's what he had to say
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Originally Posted by King Bowser
Hahahhahahahahah!!!! People died in water! The thing that we need to live! It's ironic! Right? Right......?
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02-04-2006, 08:50 AM
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It's unnatural selection
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Belgium
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Originally Posted by Majinbuu
can we get King Bowser banned yet?
here's what he had to say
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Well, I read a post of him:
He has these accounts too, he said so himself, so even if you ban him, he'll just come back & back,... sad...
EDIT: Well, I feel sorry for those people too... almost forgot...
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Originally Posted by Batist - The Frenchy formerly known as Majinbuu -
... and Knight of Cydonia. die. just die. die in a hellpit of fire from satan's ass.  |
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02-04-2006, 09:12 AM
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See Emily Play!
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Free Games For May.
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Its Called IP banning.
He wont come back. He wont be able to see the main site.
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02-04-2006, 02:32 PM
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Banned
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: England
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I was listening to the news whilst driving home, and they mentioned this. Apparently, the death toll is now at 900 feared dead. I was actually shocked that I nearly hit another car. It seem's lately that 'natural' diasters are happening everywhere, and to everyone. I don't know whether to go ahead and say this, but I see no harm. I fear that this year will bring the Apocalypse. We've had trapped whales, twisters, typhoons, earthquakes, and now this; all in the first month and a bit of 2006. Which brings me onto this.
06/06/06
666 - The Devil. Yeah, it's probably bull****, but this year is turning out to be pretty Hellish so far!
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02-04-2006, 02:34 PM
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Beware the Meteorologist
Join Date: Jul 2002
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SA***A, Egypt (Reuters) - Survivors of the Red Sea ferry disaster said on Saturday the Egyptian captain had fled his burning ship by lifeboat and abandoned them to their fate, as hopes faded of finding some 800 missing people.
Some passengers, plucked alive from the sea or from boats after the ferry caught fire and sank early on Friday, said crew members had told them not to worry about the blaze below deck and even ordered them to take off lifejackets.
An official at el-Salam Maritime Transport Company, which owned the Al Salam 98, said the captain, named as Sayyed Omar, was still unaccounted for. The company will issue a written statement on the disaster later on Saturday, he added.
Rescue workers have recovered 195 bodies from the Red Sea and saved 400 people, but about 800 more, most of them Egyptian workers returning from Saudi Arabia, are missing.
The director of the Red Sea Ports Authority, Major-General Mahfouz Taha, said 378 survivors had come ashore on the Egyptian side. The Saudi authorities said they had picked up 22.
Survivors said a fire broke out below deck shortly after the 35-year-old vessel left the Saudi port of Duba on Thursday evening with 1,272 passengers and a crew of about 100.
The ship began to list but the crew continued to sail out into the Red Sea rather than turn back to the Saudi port, they told reporters in the Egyptian port of Sa***a, where the ferry should have landed early on Friday.
Egyptian survivor Shahata Ali said the passengers had told the captain about the fire but he told them not to worry.
"We were wearing lifejackets but they told us there was nothing wrong, told us to take them off and they took away the lifejackets. Then the boat started to sink and the captain took a boat and left," he added, speaking to Reuters Television.
"The captain was the first to leave and we were surprised to see the boat sinking," added Khaled Hassan, another survivor.
Other survivors also reported that the crew had played down the gravity of the situation and withheld lifejackets.
"There was a fire but the crew stopped the people from putting on lifejackets so that it wouldn't cause a panic," said Abdel Raouf Abdel Nabi, one of the survivors.
"There was a blaze down below. The crew said 'Don't worry, we will put it out.' When things got really bad the crew just went off in the lifeboats and left us on board," said Nader Galal Abdel Shafi, another arrival on the same rescue boat.
FIRE BROKE OUT ON VEHICLE
Shirin Hassan, the head of the maritime section of the Egyptian Ministry of Transport, told state television the fire seemed to have broken out on a vehicle on the lower car deck.
The crew thought they had put it out but it flared up again, he said, citing a preliminary analysis.
It was not immediately clear why coastguards did not appear to have received any distress signal from the ferry.
State news agency MENA said on Friday morning a ship did pick up a message from the ferry's captain saying he was in danger of sinking. It did not say how the ship reacted.
Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak, who has ordered an immediate investigation into the disaster, visited some of the injured in a hospital in the port of Hurghada on Saturday.
Mubarak ordered the government to pay 30,000 Egyptian pounds ($5,200) in compensation to each of the families of the dead and 15,000 pounds to each of the survivors, MENA said.
In Sa***a, riot police fired four tear gas canisters at angry relatives of the passengers after some in the crowd had thrown stones at the police holding them back at the gate to the port, witnesses said.
In the morning an official came and read out a partial list of the names of survivors to the assembled relatives.
Fathi Kamel cried out: "Allahu Akbar (God is Most Great)" when he heard that his nephew was among the survivors.
Others broke down in tears when the reading ended and they had not heard the names they were waiting for.
Egyptian presidential spokesman Suleiman Awad said on Friday there may not have been enough lifeboats.
"The speed with which the ship sank and the lack of sufficient lifeboats indicate there was some deficiency," he told Egyptian television.
A shipping company official said the Saudi authorities had confirmed that everything was in order when the ship sailed.
MENA said the passenger list included more than 1,000 Egyptians, as well as other nationalities, including Saudis, Syrians, and a Canadian.
A sister ship of the sunken ferry, the Al Salam 95, sank in the Red Sea in October after a collision with a Cypriot commercial vessel. All but four of the passengers were saved.
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http://reuters.myway.com/article/20...T-FERRY-DC.html
What a terrible captain. Hopefully he will not escape the consequences of abandoning his passengers in their hour of need.
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02-04-2006, 02:34 PM
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Treasure Hunter
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Sainte Maxime
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uhm. what?
it's 06 - 06 - 2006.
there's four 0's and a 2.
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02-04-2006, 02:35 PM
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Banned
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: England
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06/06/06. Most people write it like that. Ass.
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02-04-2006, 02:36 PM
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Treasure Hunter
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Sainte Maxime
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Originally Posted by jazzman
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he should be tried and sentenced to life in prison for murder for being such a coward.
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02-04-2006, 02:36 PM
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Beware the Meteorologist
Join Date: Jul 2002
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Originally Posted by Majinbuu
uhm. what?
it's 06 - 06 - 2006.
there's four 0's and a 2.
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Especially since it was discovered that 666 was a mistranslation and the mark of the beast is a different number.
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02-04-2006, 02:36 PM
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Treasure Hunter
Join Date: Jan 2002
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Originally Posted by Albino
06/06/06. Most people write it like that. Ass.
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well, you can write it like that all you want, but that doesn't change the fact that there are three 0s.
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02-04-2006, 02:40 PM
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Beware the Meteorologist
Join Date: Jul 2002
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Looked around and found out the real mark of the beast is 616. Ah! That's West Michigan's area code! Fear!
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