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Old 05-07-2005, 04:55 PM #1
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DS vs PSP software in Japan (LTD - 10 April)

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1. Super Mario 64 DS - Nintendo - 711,424
2. Sawaru Made in Wario - Nintendo - 710,371
3. Pokemon Dash - Pokemon - 323,741
4. Daigassou! Band Brothers - Nintendo - 166,071
5. Catch! Touch! Yoshi! - Nintendo - 163,963
6. Touch! Kirby - Nintendo - 127,690
7. Another Code Futatsu no Kioku - Nintendo - 104,114
8. Chokkan Hitofude - Nintendo - 102,330
9. Kimi no tame nara Shineru - Sega - 97,629
10. Puyo Puyo Fever - Sega - 82,898
11. Kenshuui Tendou Dokuta - Spike - 76,724
12. Pac Pix - Namco - 70,514
13. Bokujou Monogatari Corobockle Station - Marvellous - 56,987
14. Tennis no Oujisama 2005 Crystal Drive - Konami - 49,385
15. Egg Monster Hero - Square Enix - 49,131
16. Mister Driller Drill Spirits - Namco - 47,976
17. Zoo Keeper - Success - 45,412
18. Meteos - Bandai - 39,232
19. Mahjong Taikai - Koei - 34,545
20. Spiderman 2 - Taito - 26,633
21. The Urbs: Sims in the City - EA - 24,685
22. Kamen Genei Satsujin Jiken - Genki - 10,254
23. Cool 104 Joker & Setline - Aruze - 9,613
24. Electroplankton - Nintendo - 5,545
25. Yakuman DS - Nintendo - 4,791
26. Tiger Woods PGA Tour - EA - 3,381
27. Space Invaders DS - Taito - 3,249
Hardware - 2,054,016
Tie ratio - 1.53


PSP
1. Minna no Golf Portable - SCE - 337,972
2. Ridge Racers - Namco - 274,682
3. Shin Sangoku Musou - Koei - 268,514
4. Tales of Eternia - Namco - 157,043
5. Piposaru Academia - SCE - 108,599
6. Metal Gear Acid - Konami - 99,871
7. Kotoba no Puzzle Mojipittan - Namco - 98,109
8. Gagharv Trilogy: Shiroki Majou - Bandai - 89,202
9. Dokodemo Issho - SCE - 86,255
10. Mahjong Fight Club - Konami - 77,137
11. Popolocrois Monogatari - SCE - 70,364
12. Namco Museum - Namco - 61,895
13. Armored Core Formula Front - From Software - 58,288
14. Bleach - SCE - 52,140
15. Puyo Puyo Fever - Sega - 49,345
16. Sarugetchu P! - SCE - 42,674
17. Lumines - Bandai - 37,271
18. Vampire Chronicles - Capcom - 37,184
19. Rengoku: The Tower of Purgatory - Hudson - 36,424
20. Need for Speed Underground Rivals - EA - 25,689
21. Soukyuu no Fafner - Bandai - 25,622
22. Mahjong Taikai - Koei - 15,264
23. Mobile Train Simulator + Densha de Go! - Ongakukan - 12,861
24. Puzzle Bobble Pocket - Taito - 11,943
25. Sangokushi V - Koei - 9,910
26. AI Shogi - Marvellous - 9,684
27. Shinten Makai: GOCIV Another Side - Idea Factory - 9,534
28. AI Mahjong - Marvellous - 8,649
29. AI Igo - Marvellous - 8,479
30. Kollon - Cyberfront - 8,184
31. Wipeout Pure - SCE - 5,772
32. Harukanaru Toki no Naka de: Iroetebako - Koei - 1,559
Hardware - 1,168,173
Tie ratio - 1.88

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I chucked these numbers into excel and here's what I've come up with:
Total:
DS 27 games, 10 1st party, 17 3rd party
PSP 32 games, 7 first party, 25 3rd party

DS total software sales 3,148,288
PSP total software sales 2,196,119

DS 1st party software sales 2,420,040
PSP 1st party software sales 703,776
DS 3rd party software sales 728,248
PSP 3rd party software sales 1,492,343

DS sales per game 116,603
PSP sales per game 68,629
DS sales per 3rd party game 42,838
PSP sales per 3rd party game 59,694

So DS software sales are overall higher, but it is because Nintendo games just sell so much. In fact almost half the games sold between the 2 systems are 1st party Nintendo games. The thing with these numbers though is that the launch games have a bit of a monopoly on the sales. Mario and Wario account for almost half the DS total, and other big sellers like Pokemon Dash and Project Rub were DS launch games. Same with the psp and Hotshots, Ridge Racer, Metal Gear and Dynasty Warriors all available within days of launch.

The psp is definitely doing better on the 3rd party front with 50% more games and double the sales. In fact just looking at raw numbers it is a clear winner. The thing is, the PSP has received a higher quality of 3rd party game. FWIW If you ignore the psp big hitters(no DS 3rd party big hitters yet) the sales are fairly comparable. Also, if you ignore launch games, then both systems have done similarly well now that Naruto DS is pulling out numbers comparable with Tales of Eternia. In fact Naruto alone has increased the DS 3rd party total by over 10%.
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Old 05-07-2005, 04:58 PM #2
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Old 05-07-2005, 05:29 PM #5
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for a 5-6 month HEAD START this is pathetic


DS total software sales 3,148,288
PSP total software sales 2,196,119

thats pretty damn close man.

barely 1 million difference and GT4 and GTA and BF Modern combat haven't even been released for PSP yet.

Pwnt like a doggy.

o let me guess your gonna give me bs that this only counted japan? WHO CARES the us sales are probably similar same ration

psp > ds 4 lyfe
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I can't believe Pokemon Dash sold so well (I know it's Pokemon but still... it sucks). Also, I thought Another Code was going to be huge in Japan? It isn't very high on the chart...

I'd also like to see Meteos and Electroplankton higher than they are.
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barely 1 million difference and GT4 and GTA and BF Modern combat haven't even been released for PSP yet.
And a new Mario, and Zelda, and Pokemon, and Advance Wars, and Mario Kart, and Nanostray, and Castlevania, and FF 3/CC, and...

havent been released for the DS yet.

That's why PSP doesn't look incredibly pitiful now, DS doesn't have anywhere near the games it will have yet. What does PSP have coming? A UMD release of an FF movie? A GTA2 remake?
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o let me guess your gonna give me bs that this only counted japan? WHO CARES the us sales are probably similar same ration
Yeah, its only $70 more and has less games
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for a 5-6 month HEAD START this is pathetic

What the heck? There was barely any headstart for Nintendo in Japan.
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And a new Mario, and Zelda, and Pokemon, and Advance Wars, and Mario Kart, and Nanostray, and Castlevania, and FF 3/CC, and...

havent been released for the DS yet.

That's why PSP doesn't look incredibly pitiful now, DS doesn't have anywhere near the games it will have yet. What does PSP have coming? A UMD release of an FF movie? A GTA2 remake?


Yeah, its only $70 more and has less games


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its a gta 3 remake and its not aerial view. its full 3d

and battle field modern combat will be insane.

Flying planes, Tanks, jeeps, music, missles, omg thats gonna rock.

And REMEMBER FOLKS the ds was released DURING XMAS.

psp was released in no mans land.


Hmm i wonder when ppl buy stuff...... xmas? or the end of march


get real ppl.
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its a gta 3 remake and its not aerial view. its full 3d
No, I'm almost positive it's a GTA2 remake. I dont know if they were going to scale it up to 3d or not (but I doubt it)
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and battle field modern combat will be insane.

Flying planes, Tanks, jeeps, music, missles, omg thats gonna rock.
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As was the PSP in Japan.
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No, I'm almost positive it's a GTA2 remake. I dont know if they were going to scale it up to 3d or not (but I doubt it)


Omgzz expowsions roxxors!!


As was the PSP in Japan.


Dude its a gta 3 remake

its liberty city man. do you know what liberty city is? gta 3.....

and it is 3d.

why the hell would it be 2d or aerial

look at the screen shots posted somewhere around here or *gasp* venture to a playstion forum

you are ignorant because you dont venture outside this forum

i post on 10-20 forums DAILY

some or sony or nintendo or xbox some just general games but ATLEAST IM INFORMED
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*does a dance*

Loooook at the nuuuuuumberssssss.

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Hahahahaha, PSP sucks. DS 4 lyfe. Hahahahahaha.
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Dude its a gta 3 remake

its liberty city man. do you know what liberty city is? gta 3.....

and it is 3d.

why the hell would it be 2d or aerial

look at the screen shots posted somewhere around here or *gasp* venture to a playstion forum

you are ignorant because you dont venture outside this forum

i post on 10-20 forums DAILY

some or sony or nintendo or xbox some just general games but ATLEAST IM INFORMED



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o let me guess your gonna give me bs that this only counted japan?
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And REMEMBER FOLKS the ds was released DURING XMAS.

psp was released in no mans land.
Do you even listen to your self, or does the racket of your head rattling make that too difficult?
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Rockstar would have to be smoking some pretty heavy stuff to release a 2D GTA game for PSP...
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Dude its a gta 3 remake

its liberty city man. do you know what liberty city is? gta 3.....

and it is 3d.

why the hell would it be 2d or aerial

look at the screen shots posted somewhere around here or *gasp* venture to a playstion forum

you are ignorant because you dont venture outside this forum

i post on 10-20 forums DAILY

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Rockstar would have to be smoking some pretty heavy stuff to release a 2D GTA game for PSP...

Not really. With such limited techincal specs, the PSP can't push such huge environments like the PS2 can without having loads and loads of loading times. If this were near the end of the end of the PSP life cycle, like 4 years down the road, I could see it happening, mostly because developers know the hardware really well. This is still only 6 months after the system release, and Rockstar knows the game will sell of brand name alone. The problem is it's not exactly something consumers want. So either they choose a quick loading, free roaming 2D version, or a slow, ugly (graphic wise), glitchy 3D version.

Personally I think I'd take the former.
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Rockstar would have to be smoking some pretty heavy stuff to release a 2D GTA game for PSP...

Or if they couldn't get the game to work with a reasonable battery life on the PSP. GTA could have such huge environments because it was continuously reading from the disc. How on Earth is Rockstar gonna get GTA to work if they can't continuously load from the disc? If they try using this technique, it will drain the battery in no time at all. Perhaps GTA PSP will come bundled with an extra battery.
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