Unlimited Game Rentals Delivered - Free Trial

Go Back   N-Philes :: Forums > Gaming - Who are you? > General Gaming
Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 02-24-2005, 09:24 PM #1
nenned
Is she worth it?
 
nenned's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Boston
Posts: 9,573 nenned might want to think about buying stock in N-Philesnenned might want to think about buying stock in N-Philesnenned might want to think about buying stock in N-Philesnenned might want to think about buying stock in N-Philesnenned might want to think about buying stock in N-Philesnenned might want to think about buying stock in N-Philesnenned might want to think about buying stock in N-Philesnenned might want to think about buying stock in N-Philesnenned might want to think about buying stock in N-Philesnenned might want to think about buying stock in N-Philesnenned might want to think about buying stock in N-Philes
Send a message via AIM to nenned
M-Create (2/14/05 - 2/20/05) RE4, We Hardly Knew You.

Software:

Rank/ System/ Title/ Developer/ Sold This Week/ Sold Total

1/ PS2/ Devil May Cry 3/ Capcom/ 194,530/ 194,530
2/ PS2/ Dragon Ball Z3/ Bandai/ 90,911/ 517,807
3/ PS2/ Rumble Roses/ Konami/ 73,935/ 73,935
4/ PS2/ D1 Grand Prix/ Yukes/ 26,286/ 26,268
5/ PS2/ Gladiator: Road to Freedom/ Ertain/ 14,336/ 14,336
6/ PS2/ Gran Turismo 4/ SCE/ 12,863/ 956,690
7/ PSP/ Popolocrois Monotagari: Pietoro Ouji no Bouken/ SCE/ 11,956/ 45,715
8/ DS/ Catch! Touch! Yoshi!/ Nintendo/ 11,591/ 120,696
9/ PS2/ Shinseki Yusha Daisen/ Atlus/ 10,487/ 10,487
10/ PSP/ Minna no Golf Portable/ SCE/ 10,353/ N/A- Game was not on last week's Top 10 Chart to calculate complete total


Hardware:

System/ Sold This Week/ 2005 Total
PS2/ 38,954/ 432,091
PSP/ 38,314/ 400,669
DS/ 22,363/ 328,042
GBASP/ 10,849/ 148,736
GC/ 3,256/ 55,428
GBA/ 399/ 4,421
Xbox/ 295/ 3,595

Last edited by nenned : 02-24-2005 at 09:46 PM.
nenned is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-24-2005, 09:25 PM #2
Xiu Xiu
Curbstomp yr Enthusiasm
 
Xiu Xiu's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: the Holy City
Posts: 5,289 Xiu Xiu has a pleasant aromaXiu Xiu has a pleasant aromaXiu Xiu has a pleasant aromaXiu Xiu has a pleasant aromaXiu Xiu has a pleasant aromaXiu Xiu has a pleasant aromaXiu Xiu has a pleasant aromaXiu Xiu has a pleasant aromaXiu Xiu has a pleasant aromaXiu Xiu has a pleasant aromaXiu Xiu has a pleasant aroma
Send a message via AIM to Xiu Xiu
Where's Resident Evil 4? :[
__________________
Xiu Xiu is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-24-2005, 09:29 PM #3
DayLahs
Will Never Be Another
 
DayLahs's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Miami, Florida
Posts: 46,179 DayLahs spends too much time pretending to be coolDayLahs spends too much time pretending to be coolDayLahs spends too much time pretending to be coolDayLahs spends too much time pretending to be coolDayLahs spends too much time pretending to be coolDayLahs spends too much time pretending to be coolDayLahs spends too much time pretending to be coolDayLahs spends too much time pretending to be coolDayLahs spends too much time pretending to be coolDayLahs spends too much time pretending to be coolDayLahs spends too much time pretending to be cool
Send a message via AIM to DayLahs
HA! damn not even in the top 10. anyways, great sales for DMC 3 cant wait to pick it up next week. Gran turismo is almost to a million sold EXCELLENT. Has the Ds outsold the psp any this year yet?
__________________
DayLahs is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-24-2005, 09:31 PM #4
nenned
Is she worth it?
 
nenned's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Boston
Posts: 9,573 nenned might want to think about buying stock in N-Philesnenned might want to think about buying stock in N-Philesnenned might want to think about buying stock in N-Philesnenned might want to think about buying stock in N-Philesnenned might want to think about buying stock in N-Philesnenned might want to think about buying stock in N-Philesnenned might want to think about buying stock in N-Philesnenned might want to think about buying stock in N-Philesnenned might want to think about buying stock in N-Philesnenned might want to think about buying stock in N-Philesnenned might want to think about buying stock in N-Philes
Send a message via AIM to nenned
I beleive PSP has outsold DS every week this year but DS has still outsold PSP LTD.
nenned is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-24-2005, 09:36 PM #5
Xavius
Sabor de Soledad
 
Xavius's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: NM
Posts: 32,274 Xavius needs a hobbyXavius needs a hobbyXavius needs a hobbyXavius needs a hobbyXavius needs a hobbyXavius needs a hobbyXavius needs a hobbyXavius needs a hobbyXavius needs a hobbyXavius needs a hobbyXavius needs a hobby
All is not right in the world.
__________________


I was young and confused and your mom didn't want me around no more. Now pass me dem damn collard greens!
Xavius is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-24-2005, 09:38 PM #6
BuzzJive
More WiiWare
 
BuzzJive's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Utah
Posts: 4,703 BuzzJive has a pleasant aromaBuzzJive has a pleasant aromaBuzzJive has a pleasant aromaBuzzJive has a pleasant aromaBuzzJive has a pleasant aromaBuzzJive has a pleasant aromaBuzzJive has a pleasant aromaBuzzJive has a pleasant aromaBuzzJive has a pleasant aromaBuzzJive has a pleasant aromaBuzzJive has a pleasant aroma
Send a message via AIM to BuzzJive
Not like DMC3 did a whole lot better than RE4 - considering the difference in userbase. But yeah - too bad RE4

PSP is really not selling that well considering they are available everywhere now. It will be interesting to see what happens when the DS and PSP finally start releasing some software. I wonder if Sony is starting to panic yet.
BuzzJive is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-24-2005, 09:43 PM #7
Crusader
De novo
 
Crusader's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Avon Lake, Ohio
Posts: 1,739 Crusader promises to call in the morningCrusader promises to call in the morningCrusader promises to call in the morningCrusader promises to call in the morningCrusader promises to call in the morningCrusader promises to call in the morningCrusader promises to call in the morningCrusader promises to call in the morning
Send a message via AIM to Crusader
Quote:
Originally Posted by BuzzJive
PSP is really not selling that well considering they are available everywhere now. It will be interesting to see what happens when the DS and PSP finally start releasing some software. I wonder if Sony is starting to panic yet.

I don't think Sony has any major reason to panic. Third party support for the PSP is solid to say the least, and PSP hardware sales are neck and neck with PS2 sales.

Anyway, the DS's sales are not especially good, but not that many games have been released on it as of late. I hope Another Code does well. Yeah, here's hoping....
__________________
Read excellent short stories and poetry at The Dying Art.
Crusader is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 02-24-2005, 09:46 PM #8
sonicblue
Thundercougarfalconbird
 
sonicblue's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: South Florida
Posts: 20,156 sonicblue might want to think about buying stock in N-Philessonicblue might want to think about buying stock in N-Philessonicblue might want to think about buying stock in N-Philessonicblue might want to think about buying stock in N-Philessonicblue might want to think about buying stock in N-Philessonicblue might want to think about buying stock in N-Philessonicblue might want to think about buying stock in N-Philessonicblue might want to think about buying stock in N-Philessonicblue might want to think about buying stock in N-Philessonicblue might want to think about buying stock in N-Philessonicblue might want to think about buying stock in N-Philes
Send a message via AIM to sonicblue Send a message via MSN to sonicblue
Why should Sony be panicing? Isn't Nintendo the one who hasn't outsold the PSP once this year?
__________________
sonicblue is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-24-2005, 09:48 PM #9
nenned
Is she worth it?
 
nenned's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Boston
Posts: 9,573 nenned might want to think about buying stock in N-Philesnenned might want to think about buying stock in N-Philesnenned might want to think about buying stock in N-Philesnenned might want to think about buying stock in N-Philesnenned might want to think about buying stock in N-Philesnenned might want to think about buying stock in N-Philesnenned might want to think about buying stock in N-Philesnenned might want to think about buying stock in N-Philesnenned might want to think about buying stock in N-Philesnenned might want to think about buying stock in N-Philesnenned might want to think about buying stock in N-Philes
Send a message via AIM to nenned
Quote:
Originally Posted by sonicblue
Why should Sony be panicing? Isn't Nintendo the one who hasn't outsold the PSP once this year?

But Nintendo is used to loosing to Sony. Sony loosing steam in Japan must be shocking to them.
nenned is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-24-2005, 09:49 PM #10
Xiu Xiu
Curbstomp yr Enthusiasm
 
Xiu Xiu's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: the Holy City
Posts: 5,289 Xiu Xiu has a pleasant aromaXiu Xiu has a pleasant aromaXiu Xiu has a pleasant aromaXiu Xiu has a pleasant aromaXiu Xiu has a pleasant aromaXiu Xiu has a pleasant aromaXiu Xiu has a pleasant aromaXiu Xiu has a pleasant aromaXiu Xiu has a pleasant aromaXiu Xiu has a pleasant aromaXiu Xiu has a pleasant aroma
Send a message via AIM to Xiu Xiu
Man .. that announcement sure hurt RE4's sales. I hope DMC3 falls off the charts quickly.
__________________
Xiu Xiu is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-24-2005, 09:52 PM #11
BuzzJive
More WiiWare
 
BuzzJive's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Utah
Posts: 4,703 BuzzJive has a pleasant aromaBuzzJive has a pleasant aromaBuzzJive has a pleasant aromaBuzzJive has a pleasant aromaBuzzJive has a pleasant aromaBuzzJive has a pleasant aromaBuzzJive has a pleasant aromaBuzzJive has a pleasant aromaBuzzJive has a pleasant aromaBuzzJive has a pleasant aromaBuzzJive has a pleasant aroma
Send a message via AIM to BuzzJive
Quote:
Originally Posted by Crusader
I don't think Sony has any major reason to panic. Third party support for the PSP is solid to say the least, and PSP hardware sales are neck and neck with PS2 sales.

No reason to panic? Even at this pace it will take a year to match the sales of the DS. The problem is that within that year span - plenty of good games will come out for the DS and it WILL surge ahead several times. Sony needs to sell as many units as fast as they can, and right now they are not.

The DS has it's problems as well for sure, but is Sony going to wait for more DS to strike out again, or are they going to do something?
BuzzJive is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-24-2005, 09:52 PM #12
Crusader
De novo
 
Crusader's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Avon Lake, Ohio
Posts: 1,739 Crusader promises to call in the morningCrusader promises to call in the morningCrusader promises to call in the morningCrusader promises to call in the morningCrusader promises to call in the morningCrusader promises to call in the morningCrusader promises to call in the morningCrusader promises to call in the morning
Send a message via AIM to Crusader
Quote:
Originally Posted by nenned
But Nintendo is used to loosing to Sony. Sony loosing steam in Japan must be shocking to them.

I don't see Sony losing steam. Hardware sales dropped across the board, and playstation software dominated the charts this week (there are even PSP games up there).

EDIT: Buzzjive, Sony doesn't need to surpass the DS's userbase in one fell swoop. All they have to do is gradually establish the PSP and build up their own handheld userbase. Also, the DS release list has no major hitters for a while. Don't forget, the PSP is not without its own good games [in development].
__________________
Read excellent short stories and poetry at The Dying Art.
Crusader is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 02-24-2005, 09:52 PM #13
sonicblue
Thundercougarfalconbird
 
sonicblue's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: South Florida
Posts: 20,156 sonicblue might want to think about buying stock in N-Philessonicblue might want to think about buying stock in N-Philessonicblue might want to think about buying stock in N-Philessonicblue might want to think about buying stock in N-Philessonicblue might want to think about buying stock in N-Philessonicblue might want to think about buying stock in N-Philessonicblue might want to think about buying stock in N-Philessonicblue might want to think about buying stock in N-Philessonicblue might want to think about buying stock in N-Philessonicblue might want to think about buying stock in N-Philessonicblue might want to think about buying stock in N-Philes
Send a message via AIM to sonicblue Send a message via MSN to sonicblue
Quote:
Originally Posted by nenned
But Nintendo is used to loosing to Sony. Sony loosing steam in Japan must be shocking to them.
Losing steam? Didn't they start off being way behind Nintendo? And since then they've done nothing but stay ahead of Nintendo. Where's the steam they're losing?
Quote:
Originally Posted by BuzzJive
The problem is that within that year span - plenty of good games will come out for the DS and it WILL surge ahead several times.
So only the DS will get good games and sales surges? Why can't the PSP get great games too and get even bigger surges than the DS?
__________________
sonicblue is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-24-2005, 09:53 PM #14
sonicblue
Thundercougarfalconbird
 
sonicblue's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: South Florida
Posts: 20,156 sonicblue might want to think about buying stock in N-Philessonicblue might want to think about buying stock in N-Philessonicblue might want to think about buying stock in N-Philessonicblue might want to think about buying stock in N-Philessonicblue might want to think about buying stock in N-Philessonicblue might want to think about buying stock in N-Philessonicblue might want to think about buying stock in N-Philessonicblue might want to think about buying stock in N-Philessonicblue might want to think about buying stock in N-Philessonicblue might want to think about buying stock in N-Philessonicblue might want to think about buying stock in N-Philes
Send a message via AIM to sonicblue Send a message via MSN to sonicblue
Quote:
Originally Posted by BuzzJive
The problem is that within that year span - plenty of good games will come out for the DS and it WILL surge ahead several times.
So only the DS will get good games and sales surges?
__________________
sonicblue is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-24-2005, 10:07 PM #15
BuzzJive
More WiiWare
 
BuzzJive's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Utah
Posts: 4,703 BuzzJive has a pleasant aromaBuzzJive has a pleasant aromaBuzzJive has a pleasant aromaBuzzJive has a pleasant aromaBuzzJive has a pleasant aromaBuzzJive has a pleasant aromaBuzzJive has a pleasant aromaBuzzJive has a pleasant aromaBuzzJive has a pleasant aromaBuzzJive has a pleasant aromaBuzzJive has a pleasant aroma
Send a message via AIM to BuzzJive
PSP will have surges. Sure. It will go both ways - but here's the real point I'm making:

There weren't even 1 million people in Japan that were convinced that the PSP is a "must have" item.

The demand has waned. They are available everywhere, and consumers are not inclined to buy them. Heck - Apple sells more iPods in any given week I'm sure, and all they do is play music. The GBA and the GBASP were FLYING off the shelves at this point. Sony isn't JUST competing with the DS (who's sales have slowed - yes), they are trying to break into a much bigger market that includes iPods and GBA's as well. Where is the demand? How much lower will it go? That is what Sony should be panicking about.
BuzzJive is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-24-2005, 10:11 PM #16
Crusader
De novo
 
Crusader's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Avon Lake, Ohio
Posts: 1,739 Crusader promises to call in the morningCrusader promises to call in the morningCrusader promises to call in the morningCrusader promises to call in the morningCrusader promises to call in the morningCrusader promises to call in the morningCrusader promises to call in the morningCrusader promises to call in the morning
Send a message via AIM to Crusader
I think you're exaggerating the problem. Sure, the PSP isn't doing amazingly well. Okay. Yet, it is selling at the same rate as the PS2. Such a rate of sales is undeniably good. That is not something to worry about. Also, the DS's weeky sales, I think, are a greater cause for concern.
__________________
Read excellent short stories and poetry at The Dying Art.
Crusader is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 02-24-2005, 10:12 PM #17
sonicblue
Thundercougarfalconbird
 
sonicblue's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: South Florida
Posts: 20,156 sonicblue might want to think about buying stock in N-Philessonicblue might want to think about buying stock in N-Philessonicblue might want to think about buying stock in N-Philessonicblue might want to think about buying stock in N-Philessonicblue might want to think about buying stock in N-Philessonicblue might want to think about buying stock in N-Philessonicblue might want to think about buying stock in N-Philessonicblue might want to think about buying stock in N-Philessonicblue might want to think about buying stock in N-Philessonicblue might want to think about buying stock in N-Philessonicblue might want to think about buying stock in N-Philes
Send a message via AIM to sonicblue Send a message via MSN to sonicblue
Quote:
Originally Posted by BuzzJive
The demand has waned. They are available everywhere, and consumers are not inclined to buy them.
Are you sure of that? I was under the impression that Sony was still only sending out limited amounts of PSPs. Limited in comparison to however many DS's Nintendo is able to ship out. Got any shipping numbers?
Quote:
Originally Posted by BuzzJive
Heck - Apple sells more iPods in any given week I'm sure, and all they do is play music.
Different market, different country, no proof.
__________________
sonicblue is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-24-2005, 10:20 PM #18
captain of america
Lakitu
 
captain of america's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 1,276 captain of america pretends there is no front pagecaptain of america pretends there is no front pagecaptain of america pretends there is no front pagecaptain of america pretends there is no front pagecaptain of america pretends there is no front pagecaptain of america pretends there is no front pagecaptain of america pretends there is no front page
Quote:
Originally Posted by sonicblue
So only the DS will get good games and sales surges? Why can't the PSP get great games too and get even bigger surges than the DS?
bigger sales surges than what pokemon, final fantasy, dragon quest, mario, zelda, xenosaga, castlevania, secret of mana, kirby, ... can do for DS sales?
do you think so?
anyway, nintendo is a holiday season company that most of its sales in terms of hardware and software come from holiday season. during these past weeks PS2 could outsell GC nearly 10 to 1 but these ratio during holiday season was less than 3 to 1.
so even if PSP can outsell DS with this margin during next 9 months (its impossible) then again during holiday season (just like last year) DS will crash PSP.
__________________
captain of america is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-24-2005, 10:20 PM #19
Old School Gamer
Survivor through Jesus
 
Old School Gamer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Denham Springs, LA
Posts: 3,517 Old School Gamer promises to call in the morningOld School Gamer promises to call in the morningOld School Gamer promises to call in the morningOld School Gamer promises to call in the morningOld School Gamer promises to call in the morningOld School Gamer promises to call in the morningOld School Gamer promises to call in the morningOld School Gamer promises to call in the morningOld School Gamer promises to call in the morningOld School Gamer promises to call in the morningOld School Gamer promises to call in the morning
Send a message via AIM to Old School Gamer
I personally feel the PSP will fail as a gaming machine. A lot of consumers in North America are going to buy the system for movie playback (how uninformed they are of the shortcomings) and other media options. A dollar spent on "other media" is a dollar taken from game developers. When game developers cannot turn a profit, they're going to go a different route (basic law of common sense).

I've also heard that even at $249.99, the PSP is still losing a lot of money per system. If software doesn't sell well after the initial boom phase, Sony should be worrying.

The DS isn't selling well lately because people are waiting on more games. Unlike the PSP, they DS is a game player, period. I'm in that crowd. When the DS gets around five solid games that I would be interested in, I will make my motion to buy one. The games have to be fun and something I can play between class breaks. I'm not interested in playing titles that belong on a console although I'm sure the system will get some of those that are damn fine, but I don't use handhelds in that way.
__________________
I have a downline of 1205 (and growing) in MLM and still moved on. Am I crazy? Never! Find out why in my Carbon Copy Pro review!

See the Official Blog of Forest Marie!
Old School Gamer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-24-2005, 10:22 PM #20
BuzzJive
More WiiWare
 
BuzzJive's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Utah
Posts: 4,703 BuzzJive has a pleasant aromaBuzzJive has a pleasant aromaBuzzJive has a pleasant aromaBuzzJive has a pleasant aromaBuzzJive has a pleasant aromaBuzzJive has a pleasant aromaBuzzJive has a pleasant aromaBuzzJive has a pleasant aromaBuzzJive has a pleasant aromaBuzzJive has a pleasant aromaBuzzJive has a pleasant aroma
Send a message via AIM to BuzzJive
Quote:
Originally Posted by sonicblue
Are you sure of that? I was under the impression that Sony was still only sending out limited amounts of PSPs. Limited in comparison to however many DS's Nintendo is able to ship out. Got any shipping numbers?

Yes - I'm sure. They've been available for weeks over there. You've been able to import from Lik Sang for weeks now - and I know people over there that say they are readily available. I don't have the shipping numbers though. Sorry.


Of course I'm exaggerating the problem a bit, but Nintendo didn't run out of buyers until well beyond a million and a half units sold. Did they have the benefit of better supply during the launch window? Yes. But Sony isn't selling these things as fast as they can produce them, which is what some people actually expected - including Sony themselves.
BuzzJive is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:35 PM.


Powered by: vBulletin Version 3.0.1
Copyright ©2000 - 2010, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.