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Batist 09-28-2004 02:09 AM

ASSiMiL. I want you to welcome your new trilanguel.
 
I just got the book/cd thingy i ordered. from ASSiMiL. yeah, now i got Volume 1 of how Japanese Lessons for beginners.

it says in the intro that Japanese pronounciation is 95% similiar to french, so that's cool.

now i'm taking my private lessons of japanese.

:thumbs:

:D

:kidd:

XxHumanCowxX 09-28-2004 02:17 AM

gaijin

kinopio 09-28-2004 05:19 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Majinbuu
it says in the intro that Japanese pronounciation is 95% similiar to french, so that's cool.
Konishiwa. I strongly doubt it. It's probably more similar than English, but apart from voyels (which are deformed in English, like I is read EY instead of EE), Japanese has pretty much nothing common with French. Oddly enough, it's actually more similar to Arabic!

I tried using an Assimil method to learn Spanish once, like twelve years ago. The only thing I learned before giving up was something like "Me marchare in Barcelona la semana que viene". Which was true then, since I attended the 1992 Olympic Games.

EDIT: Sayonara :).

Batist 09-28-2004 05:27 AM

So you're saying i'm lying?

here's what it says

'Un bon côté de l'étude du japonais, c'est que sa prononciation ne pose aucune difficulté pour les Français. 95 % des sons du japonais existent en français.'

you try to figure it out.

bleeper 09-28-2004 05:43 AM

i am unsure it looks like.
It is more difficult to pronounce french words and 95% of japenese sounds are used in French.

Batist 09-28-2004 06:18 AM

nice try


'Un bon côté de l'étude du japonais, c'est que sa prononciation ne pose aucune difficulté pour les Français. 95 % des sons du japonais existent en français.'

a good side in the study of japanese, is that pronounciation is of no difficulty for the french. 95% of japanese sounds exists in french.

Batist 09-28-2004 11:15 AM

I will be doing strange things for the next few weeks or so. I will be adding weird words and stuff. don't pay any attention. they are just me practicing my japanese.

Right now, i'm trying to memorize, yo, ka, ne, ta...

which are yo = personal opinion, ka = ?, ne = agree, same opionion, whatever.

you understand ka

objection 09-28-2004 11:18 AM

that is lame-yo

translate

Batist 09-28-2004 11:19 AM

your stupid-ne

objection 09-28-2004 11:21 AM

*you're

I suggest you focus on perfecting your english, because it is the only language you will ever need!!

Batist 09-28-2004 11:29 AM

:fthumbs:

picky picky picky. i will too be picky.
Quote:
I suggest you focus on perfecting your english, because it is the only language you will ever need!!

second ! is not needed. ya.

and this is the internet. I do not care about how you spell. i'll worry that when it is actually important.

objection 09-28-2004 11:30 AM

You cannot start a sentence with "and".

Pelican Sam 09-28-2004 11:55 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Majinbuu
yo = personal opinion
Wow, "yo" is Spanish for "me/I"!

Psionyx 09-28-2004 11:58 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by kinopio
Konishiwa. I strongly doubt it. It's probably more similar than English, but apart from voyels (which are deformed in English, like I is read EY instead of EE), Japanese has pretty much nothing common with French. Oddly enough, it's actually more similar to Arabic!

I tried using an Assimil method to learn Spanish once, like twelve years ago. The only thing I learned before giving up was something like "Me marchare in Barcelona la semana que viene". Which was true then, since I attended the 1992 Olympic Games.

EDIT: Sayonara :).
Umm according to some reports Japanese is among a few languages that is up to 3 times harder for english speakers to learn. Ofcourse I doubt that figure takes into consideration the current basterdization of Japanese.

Deneb 09-28-2004 12:12 PM

So, what was that I heard about triangles?

Batist 09-28-2004 12:24 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Psionyx
Umm according to some reports Japanese is among a few languages that is up to 3 times harder for english speakers to learn. Ofcourse I doubt that figure takes into consideration the current basterdization of Japanese.

it's not like english is a hard language to begin with..

gramathy 09-28-2004 01:16 PM

and ya is Russian for me/I!

kinopio 09-28-2004 06:44 PM

Je n'ai jamais dit que tu mentais Buu, c'est juste que je parle Français encore mieux que toi, et que je connais suffisamment de Japonais pour penser que cette affirmation est une connerie de la part d'Assimil. Wakarimasuka?

(I didn't say you were lying Buu, I just happen to know French better than even you do, and I know enough of Japanese to think this statement is bullsh*t from Assimil's part. You understand now?)

I think learning Japanese is difficult regardless of your previously known languages. The same words are used for totally different meanings and you're meant to get their sense from the way they're pronounced and the overall "ring" of the phrase. Add the suffixes like KA and some totally unpronounceable sounds, like that "rolled" R they got which sounds like an L (and is impossible to pronounce for a French BTW), and you get one hard to learn language.

Allez, sans rancune, mec. And good luck in your learning.

Deahboleeko 09-28-2004 06:49 PM

I was taking Japanes last year but then I droppd it because now they only have Spanish at my school since California busted a bad economy.

Batist 09-28-2004 06:51 PM

i never said the language was easy to learn if you where french. I clearly said pronounciation. sounds, are similar in the french and japanese languages. sounds don't mean you know the language, because clearly, O Hayo Gozaimasu is NOTHING like a french word.

I mean, for that for example, you know how they help with pronounciation? well, in the book, it says clearly o ha yô go za i ma su.

I mean, try learning arabic. or german. they don't have the same sounds.

and i got CDs with this and it is pretty true, it's very simple to pronounce. and i doudt you can speak french better then i do. i was born with it. I doudt it's possible to speak better.

Alors arrete de dire des connerie.

kajiaisu 09-28-2004 07:52 PM

baka

Ronin 09-28-2004 08:22 PM

I suggest taking classes if you want to learn Japanese; unless, of course you aren't already. It's a lot better to work in large groups and have an instructor than relying on a book. Also I'm not sure what the French to Japanese teachings are like, but the romanji is ohayoo, so in hiragana it'd be like o ha yo u. おはよう...if you can see that.

I have a bit of French and Latin under my belt. Currently I'm taking Japanese, and in the future I plan on taking either Portugese or Italian. I also don't see any connection between French and Japanese pronunciation, there of course will be some simlarities in pronunciation, but English also has some similarities. Maybe for a lot of stuff in Japanese there is a French counterpart, but the same cannot be said vice versa since French relies on accents and actually has v-,l- and other sounds.

Ragnar Danneskjöld 09-28-2004 08:25 PM

Y porque a mi no me enseñan Japones?

kinopio 09-29-2004 04:01 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Majinbuu
and i doudt you can speak french better then i do. i was born with it. I doudt it's possible to speak better.
Only I was born with it too. And if I remember correctly, your written French used to be pretty bad. the French can't spell, that's a fact.

And try pronouncing Aligato correctly. You probably can, but it's only because you're used to speak English. Most French can't "roll" their Rs.

Batist 09-29-2004 05:47 AM

what? how are you judging my french written french?

I do admit i'm not the best in grammar and all that bull****, but I speak it oraly like any oral french. same for english. I don't have the best grammar, but i speak it like any normal english. with no accent or anything.

and maybe most french can't roll there Rs, but i lived in the US for long enough to pick it up and fit with the few that can >_<. And what does that have to do with japanese anyways? Last i heard, the Japanese don't have the r and l in there language, they have something in between. and it is closer to the french l then the english r.


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